tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post3319230659904646482..comments2024-03-24T23:13:15.572-07:00Comments on Mind Deep: Wisdom 2.0 From the Inside OutMarguerite Manteau-Raohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-40400346740762135762011-03-04T08:31:08.499-08:002011-03-04T08:31:08.499-08:00Thank you Chris. I agree and I am also not so pure...Thank you Chris. I agree and I am also not so pure yet in my mind, that I can separate myself that easily from the environment especially when shadowy elements are involved. The great thing of course, is that it then becomes a teaching opportunity as was the case here.Marguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-51069655711465454982011-03-04T06:34:21.134-08:002011-03-04T06:34:21.134-08:00I'm new to your blog and catching up a bit on ...I'm new to your blog and catching up a bit on your thoughts and commentary. <br /><br />In relation to this post, I thought I would include a thought that I often use when I feel overwhelmed by my online experience (or by any experience mind you): "My focus, thoughts and experience are derived from my consciousness and yet my consciousness is not derived from my focus, thoughts and experience." <br /><br />In short, through mindfulness you can decide what is and what is not the driver of your personal experience. If technology creates craving and therefore suffering in your life, then remember that this craving and suffering comes from your mind not from the technology. Look inwards and you will find your solution. <br /><br />With loving kindness and good fortune,<br /><br />-ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02243650588131327078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-23587530054886654202011-03-02T08:10:50.022-08:002011-03-02T08:10:50.022-08:00Thank you Jodene. As I told you in my separate ema...Thank you Jodene. As I told you in my separate email response, one's experience of such an event is of course very personal, and also a collective one as well. What I felt ought to be useful information, as it deals with the shadow that was so much a part of the talk at the conference. Not all is well in the 2.0 world, and as Linda Stone so brilliantly exposed in her talk, we are now moving into a new era, where protecting and filtering are going to be the focus. The more we can share the negative impact of the current hyperconnectivity, the more new solutions will come to the foreground. I firmly believe technology can be the best antidote to technology. And I dream of applications that will do just that.<br /><br />Some of us are better than others as exercising self-control. In a way, technology is very much like food. It is almost impossible now to avoid the computer and the Internet if one is to do work in the world. Just like with food, this presents a challenge.<br /><br />And I was very happy for you, that you had such a full, satisfying experience at the conference. Yes, let's sit together next year, providing the conference provides such a container, which I am sure it will, given Soren's wonderful intention and willingness to do benefits the greater good.<br /><br />Witht metta,<br /><br />margueriteMarguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-68111240727307271212011-03-01T22:25:16.629-08:002011-03-01T22:25:16.629-08:00From Jodene E.
(I tried to post this as a comment...From Jodene E.<br /><br />(I tried to post this as a comment to your blog, but it failed each<br />time...or perhaps you need to moderate the comment? Blogger didn't<br />provide good feedback!)<br /><br />I'm sorry that we never did connect at W2.0! I find your words now<br />quite interesting and meaningful. I'm wondering if part of your<br />intense experience after the conference this year was due to it not<br />being followed by a silent retreat like last year?<br /><br />My own experience of the conference was very FULL, and not so<br />fragmented. I think this is partially because I flew into SF from<br />Seattle and thus was in a traveler mind set, altered by my new<br />surroundings. Saturday morning I took a sweet, mindful walk before the<br />proceedings began, stopping to appreciate (and photograph) the<br />blooming of spring. (Solitude!) This centered me for the second days<br />onrush. Also, as an introvert, I am protective of my "space" at<br />conferences, feeling more drawn to the wisdom of the speakers then to<br />the desire to connect and network with others. Lastly, I only traveled<br />with my iPhone, so had no computer or iPad for note-taking which<br />seriously limited my electronic interactions. This helped me to stay a<br />little more present.<br /><br />I did decide to skip the un-conference Sunday morning. The two days<br />had been demanding and I found myself wanting to enjoy the sun and the<br />rush of spring much more then wanting to interact with others.<br /><br />I had mentioned to Soren after the first conference that it would be<br />cool to have a place set aside for sitting; for intentional time out<br />from the "on" state of the event. Although the guided meditations were<br />great, I think this would be a smart addition to W2.0 v3. Maybe next<br />year we can meet and SIT together ;)<br /><br />May your disconnection from electronics bring peace and solitude.Marguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-33799679120907230812011-03-01T07:34:52.635-08:002011-03-01T07:34:52.635-08:00Jack, congratulations for guarding your mind so we...Jack, congratulations for guarding your mind so well! And I too believe in the power of sangha or some other type of community so we can help each other be better stewards of our most precious possession, our minds.<br /><br />I wish you a measured day with technology!Marguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-88652997828664092102011-03-01T07:32:48.752-08:002011-03-01T07:32:48.752-08:00John, thank you. I do believe in the power of tech...John, thank you. I do believe in the power of technology to help us get over the unhealthy hold technology currently has on us. From the conference, it was very clear that this is where Silicon Valley is now heading. A healthy balance soon to be restored!Marguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-26880077386735167642011-02-28T13:43:07.351-08:002011-02-28T13:43:07.351-08:00This is indeed timely for me. Perhaps, there is a...This is indeed timely for me. Perhaps, there is a support group for high tech addicts, maybe called "i-Anon". Certainly, part of the antidote, while we're trying to find that middle ground, is a solid practice with recovery time on the cushion. Good think that I have the Meditation app for the timer and background ambiance... JJackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02945334623631261125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-43050443690935732872011-02-28T08:11:26.196-08:002011-02-28T08:11:26.196-08:00A comment from one of my Facebook friends, John S....A comment from one of my Facebook friends, John S.:<br /><br />Thank you for your wonderful words, Marguerite. I look forward to each of your blogs. Living on the east coast, I didn't attend in Wisdom 2.0, however, found your reflections to resonate with my own feelings about technology. I've worked in hi tech all of my adult life and use iDevices to expand my knowledge, extend my capabilities and communicate much more broadly than otherwise. It is difficult to remember that it, too, is a mental formation to which one can become attached. A while ago, I installed a mindfulness bell on my iMac to ring every hour. I think I need to change it to every 10 minutes or so. In Peace, JMarguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-49091214240708867952011-02-28T08:09:38.291-08:002011-02-28T08:09:38.291-08:00Thank you, Nate. You and I, and millions or others...Thank you, Nate. You and I, and millions or others are in the same boat now, searching, striving for a solution to this conundrum. There were talks about 'self-control' at the conference. I can only speak for myself, but I find it exceedingly difficult to not get pulled. I confess to my relative powerlessness, and see it as a step towards necessary action, both personally, but also more importantly collectively. Systems need to be put in place also, as you point out, to protect us and filter extraneous noise (Linda Stone gave a fabulous presentation on the topic during the conference). It is encouraging to see this discourse taking place within the bastions of technology of Silicon Valley.<br /><br />Now, may you and I enjoy a day navigating between island of relative solitude and times of rich connectivity!Marguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-68334374136991115702011-02-28T06:34:48.199-08:002011-02-28T06:34:48.199-08:00Similar to the teachings of the Buddha, I think th...Similar to the teachings of the Buddha, I think there's a middle path we must find. Somewhere between complete solitude and detachment from the world and constantly being online and feeling the need to always check our twitter accounts, RSS feeds, the news, Facebook, etc. <br /><br />We think that we're experienced with all this technology, but we're merely infants fumbling....testing, failing, trying again...in short, trying to find our way. The modern Internet as we know it is less than 20 years old, blogs are not much more than five years old and smart phones and social media tools are barely 3-4 years old.<br /><br />I'm very interested in the psychological aspects of the increase in technology, information associated with that technology as well as the connectedness to others related to that. <br /><br />It's especially interesting to study and observe my own behavior...e.g. feeling the 'need' to be connected or a feeling that I'm somehow missing out if I'm not keeping up to date with all the blogs.<br /><br />Even as it relates to the Dharma, I can get overwhelmed. There's so much information out there...blogs, dharma talks, books and sometimes I feel as if I can't keep up with it all...or rather that I want to listen to everything and read everything, but I can't. <br /><br />I think..and maybe this gets to what Ben Fullerton is trying to do..we need to consciously find ways to not only disconnect for periods of time, but also create systems to filter information and not worry about the rest or what we perceive we're 'missing out on.'<br /><br />Easier said than done, but certainly an interesting topic and one I'm interested in!<br /><br />Peace,<br />NateNatehttp://www.fearlessendeavors.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-67472201463203607192011-02-27T20:24:46.312-08:002011-02-27T20:24:46.312-08:00Thank you Matt, for the gift of your empathic resp...Thank you Matt, for the gift of your empathic response. Kind of a paradox isn't it that we made this true connection of the mind and hearts, via cyberspace . . . <br /><br />I am about to sit quiet for 30' and invite you to join in if you can.<br /><br />With loving kindness,<br /><br />margueriteMarguerite Manteau-Raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956537059369707663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6166459572149699816.post-52711701755517342122011-02-27T20:19:51.851-08:002011-02-27T20:19:51.851-08:00As I read your post, I felt more and more empathy ...As I read your post, I felt more and more empathy for you.<br /><br />Having experimented with disconnecting (which seems strange that connectedness is now the accepted default status) I've found that the electronica we mingle with is not only a distraction but also a craving which leads to suffering.<br /> <br />Perhaps I'll write a more cogent comment later. My mind is too scattered from the exposure it got today of our "connected" world.<br /><br />By the way, it seems to me rather in-congruent with wisdom to put a version number to it. <br /><br />I feel calmer and more truly connected (to you, someone I don't know) from reading this post. Thank you for writing it and sharing your honest feelings.<br /><br />Matt C.Matt Cnoreply@blogger.com